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Who is Zorch Frezberg? Well, whoever he is, seems whenever he goes into his "rapid fire" questions mode, no one seems to forget that there was one little question he never answered. You might say that he's being "shot down" by everyone. His credibility? Zilch! Here are some of the finest we've seen lately.

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Date : Mon Jun 29, 12:01                                                       

From : Doc Logger                                              1:163/110

To   : Zorch Frezberg                      

Subj : questions for you to dodge                                            

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I see that you are having fun trying to avoid the obvious with respect to the

actions of the RECC. Naturally, it doesn't seem to register with you that the

RECs *did* consult with their regions before voting to censure Kohl. You make

much of the fact that Kohl wasn't invited to the new listserve conference.



Here's a question: How many RECs did Kohl threaten with expulsion from the RECC

echo for "revealing" the topics of discussion to their respective regions?



Since I'm not fond of leaving hanging questions, I'll give you an answer: All of

them. The reason that the little troll wasn't invited to the listserve

conference was because he was trying to be such a fascist wanker in the existing

echo. The little prick thought he could order the RECs around and dictate the

degree of public input they sought from their sysops. 



You asked why Kohl wasn't invited to participate in the discussion about his

censure. Umm, in this echo alone, Kohl was asked six times to appoint an REC for

Region 10. One of the reasons why he was censured is because he didn't appoint

an R10EC.



Here's another question: Is Kohl threatening Ruth Argust because she has told

the truth about Kohl's petty animosity towards her derived from her refusal to

board his horse? 



Here's another question: Is Brenda Donovan stupid or just incredibly naive when

she asserts that Kohl's behaviour is no one's business but Region 10's? Do you

think she can grasp the concept of the appeal process entrenched in the RCC?



Second Last question: Who but the idiotic would believe that Kohl did not reveal

the contents of Hans Mangold's in transit netmail? Do you believe that Kohl did

not disclose the contents? If so, who revealed the contents of Mangold's private

netmail to you?



Last Question: Did you vote twice in the ZEC election?







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Date : Tue Jun 23, 13:09                                                       

From : Mike McGrane                                           1:282/1024

To   : Zorch Frezberg                      

Subj : questions of the RECs                                                 

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Monday June 22 1998 17:36, Zorch Frezberg wrote to David Calafrancesco:



 ZF> For all we know, the vote was made simply on the basis of personal

 ZF> animosity, and not with any regard whatsoever to his ability to do the job

 ZF> that he was (and please note this) ELECTED BY A ZONE-WIDE SYSOP LEVEL

 ZF> VOTE.



  Which may have been invalid you should know.  You still have not answered the

question that has been asked numerous time. Did you or did you not vote once as

Zorch Frezberg and again and Mark Hernandez?  Answer the question and do NOT

pussy foot the question.  Now it is a vary simple Yes or No question, lets see

if you can answer it.



         -Mike

  mike.mcgrane@frostbit.com



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Date : Tue Jun 23, 20:36                                                       

From : Jerry Gause                                              1:3651/9

To   : Zorch Frezberg                      

Subj : humourous Snooz editors                                               

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Zorch wrote in a message to Jerry:



 ZF> No, but thank you for stating the name of the person behind this

 ZF> effort.



That would be *persons*. Me included. If you'd like, I'll be the ringleader.



 JG>> And to be continually honest, I'll add that the majority would

 JG>> have 

 JG>> rather had Kohl replaced than to even try to work with him.



 ZF> Based on what reasons?



What a minute! You asked another question. You owe me an answer still.



 JG>> Since your region was w/o the representation of an REC during

 JG>> that 

 JG>> period, you were denied the opportunity to voice your concerns

 JG>> at the 

 JG>> regional level.



 ZF> The only reason we were denied representation is that you (as the

 ZF> RECC) refused to inform or interact 

 ZF> with the acting R10EC.



Oh. So now he was the acting REC? He denied it back then.



 ZF> In point of fact, you also failed to inform him of the charges.



Charges? This isn't a court of law. We don't feel we can work with him

for many reasons. That's all that you need to be concerned with.

BTW, you seem to be the only one who is.



 ZF> BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION ABOVE...the interest of the RECC was to

 ZF> _remove_ the ZEC rather than to 

 ZF> consider working with him.



Note above "the majority"  doesn't mention the RECC.



BY MY OWN ADMISSION ABOVE...the interest of the NEC's of my region was to

remove the ZEC rather than to even consider working with him.



Good try.



 ZF> That sure sounds fair and just.



So does removing a perfectly good NEC due to personal reasons.



 ZF> I'm willing to bet you treat your dog with more justice than the

 ZF> RECC demonstrated with the ZEC, who was 

 ZF> elected by a ZONE-WIDE SYSOP LEVEL ELECTION.



I'da whooped my dogs ass for half as much.

I don't care if Satti appointed him for life. 

We refuse to work with him.





Later,

           Jerry Gause /* Team OS/2 */



 gpgause@pdn.net



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Date : Wed Jun 24, 00:38                                                       

From : Lynn Gipson                                             1:120/111

To   : Zorch Frezberg                      

Subj : humourous Snooz editors                                               

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ZF> JG> And to be continually honest, I'll add that the majority would have

ZF> JG> rather had Kohl replaced than to even try to work with him.



ZF>Based on what reasons?



The same kind of reasons that Kohl gives to those NCs he's removed?



ZF> JG> Since your region was w/o the representation of an REC during that

ZF> JG> period, you were denied the opportunity to voice your concerns at the

ZF> JG> regional level.



ZF>The only reason we were denied representation is that you (as the RECC)

ZF>refused to inform or interact with the acting R10EC.



Has the -acting R10EC- ever "refused to inform or interact with any

of his NCs when he was wearing his RC hat?



ZF>In point of fact, you also failed to inform him of the charges.



Following by example is supposed to be a form of flattery. 



ZF>You tried him without representation.



Sound familiar?



ZF>You convicted him without allowing him a defense.



Sound familiar?



ZF>BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION ABOVE...the interest of the RECC was to _remove_ the Z

ZF>rather than to consider working with him.



Sound familiar?



ZF>That sure sounds fair and just.



They've had a good teacher?



ZF>I'm willing to bet you treat your dog with more justice than the RECC

ZF>demonstrated with the ZEC, who was elected by a ZONE-WIDE SYSOP LEVEL

ZF>ELECTION.



And I would hope that the new R10C treats his horses with more respect

and honesty than he does the NCs/sysops of his region.





 * SLMR 2.1a * If I've offended anyone, my efforts have been rewarded.

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Date : Wed Jun 24, 04:53                                                       

From : Darryl Gregorash                                          1:140/0

To   : Zorch Frezberg                      

Subj : humourous Snooz editors                                               

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Replying to a message of Zorch Frezberg to Jerry Gause:



 JG>> Now that I have answered one of your "questions", please answer 

 JG>> one of mine.

 JG>> Did you vote twice in the ZEC election?



 ZF> Too late.  I am unable to respond to this question at this time.



Why? Have you forgotten how many times you voted?



--- FleetStreet 1.22 NR

 * Origin: NC 1:140 Saskatchewan Canada (1:140/0)

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Date : Wed Jun 24, 12:43                                                       

From : Jerry Gause                                            1:3651/9.1

To   : Zorch Frezberg                      

Subj : humourous Snooz editors                                               

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Zorch Frezberg wrote in a message to Jerry Gause:



ZF>> If you wish to send me mail, please use the correct name.



 JG> Which one?



ZF> The correct one.  You *can* read a nodelist, right?



Not till my mommy gets home.

After she reads me the nodelist, I'm gonna get her to

change my nodelist name to Zorch_Isa_Emailweenie.

Will you address me as such?





Later,

           Jerry Gause  /* Team OS/2 */



  gpgause@pdn.net



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Date : Tue Jun 23, 21:26                                                       

From : David Calafrancesco                                    1:2624/306

To   : Zorch Frezberg                      

Subj : ZEC out                                                               

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Zorch Frezberg wrote in a message to Lynn Gipson:



 ZF> And, to point out matters further, Jim Balcom has been

 ZF> replaced by David Calafrancesco...



 ZF> 1:2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco  | VFOS           | 33.6  |

 ZF> $15yr. 



 ZF> How odd...one FTP Service operator is replaced by another.



 ZF> What does it mean?



That you need to get a life and get out more often. If you were to ask around

you would find that the above is a suggested cost recovery amount. For full

disclosure to satisfy your insatiable curiosity into other people's business, I

just received a $20 bill from Robert Vaughn. My only VModem connection. Wow, I

wonder what I will use the $20 for... perhaps to pay 2/3ds of a month of

expenses for my own FTP link? 



How many times did you vote in the ZEC election? 



With the merest flick of my fingers I could place my wife and two kids names

into my other entries and make them all legitmate system operators of this

multi-node BBS system. They would then be entitled to vote in all sysop level

elections, just like you. I could even tell them what and who to vote for. Why

is it that nobody questions whether I voted twice when I have the ability to

have arranged that very thing, yet the appearance is that you voted twice and

you refuse to answer the simple, unloaded question. 



You use innuendo and loaded terms in your "questions" and then get all bent when

we won't play your games yet at the same time are unable or unwilling to answer

simple straight forward questions. 



In the latest ZEC election did you vote as both Zorch Frezberg as well as M

Hernandez? No evasions, no getting off on a technicality because I may have

spelled a name wrong, stop avoiding the question, answer yes or no. 



Dave Calafrancesco, Team OS/2

dave@drakkar.mhv.net



... They got the library at Alexandria, they're not getting mine! 

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